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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278928 Archived-At: On Fri, 5 Nov 2021, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2021, Jim Porter wrote: > >> On 11/5/2021 2:40 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> $ emacsclient -t --alternate-editor= >>> emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server? >>> emacsclient: To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start". >>> Another Emacs daemon is already running at process id 6084 >>> Error: server did not start correctly >>> Error: Could not start the Emacs daemon >>> $ > >> Why are you (or the Gentoo package) running with `--alternate-editor=' >> if a daemon was already started? > > Because the user may not be sure if a daemon is running, and may want to > start it just in case? Which fails with the patch applied. Thinking out loud, would systemd socket activation help here, or would that simply move the issue elsewhere? https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html#index-socket-activation_002c-systemd_002c-Emacs -- Peter Oliver