From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: encode-time vs decode-time Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:07 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <89271843-6d47-8315-ed9a-540657298985@cs.ucla.edu> References: <502b23f8-58ed-38ff-ae50-fae391129a10@cs.ucla.edu> <87v9viuivo.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83blx2cr2o.fsf@gnu.org> <8336iecfvr.fsf@gnu.org> <68d24d6a-d427-baef-27e9-ea1cbbd64c18@cs.ucla.edu> <87sgqd9plt.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="261265"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 17 09:55:35 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hytYi-0015oL-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:55:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34806 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hytYh-0004qp-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 03:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hytXa-0003w9-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 03:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hytXY-0000lU-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 03:54:21 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:40714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hytXQ-0000Wh-JY; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 03:54:14 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3ED162746; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id lnmg3PQ4sndl; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8F8162782; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id U2UEW4Saw4ij; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-23-242-74-103.socal.res.rr.com [23.242.74.103]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 402FD162746; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:54:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87sgqd9plt.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239401 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I agree; calling these things encoded/decoded time isn't very clear > terminology. "calendrical" is a mouthful, though. And "calendar" would > imply that it belongs in the calendar package, perhaps... I used "calendrical" rather than "calendar" to try to avoid that implication (also, because os.texi already called these broken-down timestamps "calendrical data"). But perhaps "calendrical" isn't far enough away from "calendar". The POSIX tradition is to call these timestamps "broken-down time", and that is what glibc calls them too. How about if we use that name instead? It would help to be more consistent with other GNU code.