From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <884ecd46-d85f-4663-8756-aaf12aa649d2@default> References: <<54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>> <<837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>> <<834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> > <<871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan>> <<83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan>> <<838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9zgarvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> > <<83y4srjaot.fsf@gnu.org> > <<83r3yhiu8c.fsf@gnu.org> > <<83r3yg9bpu.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412956980 1717 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2014 16:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen@xemacs.org To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 18:02:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XcceU-0007sJ-8L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:02:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49367 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcceT-0006KJ-BY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:02:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcceH-0006H8-4m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcce8-0007AV-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:34943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xccdz-00079A-CD; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s9AG2DcA028330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:02:14 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9AG2BsJ009237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:02:12 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9AG2A4P018567; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:02:11 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83r3yg9bpu.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175226 Archived-At: > Visit a file (or receive from another process text) that is > encoded in Latin-1. Insert some text that cannot be encoded in > Latin-1, and try saving the buffer (or sending it to a process). >=20 > Originally, Emacs would complain that Latin-1 cannot be used, and > asked the user to select a different encoding. Then users of UTF-8 > locales complained that these prompts were annoyances, that they > expect Emacs to use UTF-8 silently, without any questions, as long > as UTF-8 can encode the result. So now that is what we do. Is that preference (bother me versus silently change the encoding) under individual-user control? If not, why not create a user option for it? The default behavior can be the current behavior.