From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XSLT-process 2.2 available Date: 18 Jan 2003 02:28:01 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87znpzyyxa.fsf@pooh-sticks-bridge.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <2B36CBC4-2442-11D7-A883-00039398D61E@apache.org> <873cnr1az0.fsf@pooh-sticks-bridge.tapsellferrier.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042856799 10563 80.91.224.249 (18 Jan 2003 02:26:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Zigw-0002kF-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 03:26:38 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18Ziqd-0004v2-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 03:36:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZigZ-0006IK-03 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:26:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZigE-0006ID-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:25:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZigC-0006Hi-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:25:53 -0500 Original-Received: from host217-34-135-17.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.135.17] helo=tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZigA-0006H5-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from host217-34-135-21.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.135.21] helo=pooh-sticks-bridge.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZiiI-0001tj-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:28:02 +0000 Original-To: burton@openprivacy.org (Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)) In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 53 Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10835 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10835 burton@openprivacy.org (Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)) writes: > Nic Ferrier writes: > > > burton@openprivacy.org (Kevin A. Burton (burtonator)) writes: > > > > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > > > > > I would bet good money that Xalan will not compile on GCJ. It might > > > > require some modifications to get working. I wanted to spend some time > > > > documenting the difference between GCJ and JDK 1.4 and will do that in a > > > > month or so when I port over NewsMonster. > > > > > > > > Is anyone interested in trying Xalan in GCJ and seeing if it does work? > > > > > > > > We can't consider XSLT-process as a legitimate part of the free software world > > > > if it needs JDK to run. Fixing this ought to be the highest priority. > > > > > > Give me a little time... it is on my list of things to do but I need about 3-4 > > > weeks to get around to it. > > > > > > Getting Xalan working on GCJ and a Free Software environment is of high priority > > > for me too. Very high priority... > > > > Out of interest: Why aren't you just using libxml/libxslt from the GNU > > project? > > > A number of reasons... Xalan and Xerces are literally the best XML/XSLT impls I > have ever played with. They also support an advanced plugin/extension API and I > can do really amazing things with them under Java. > > As is the case Java is not Free Software which makes the situation bad. For a > while there I was taking a balanced approach (this was a decision I made 5 years > ago btw) and I think it is the perfect example of why people should NEVER use > non-free software. > > My current goals are to move go GCJ and encourage SUN to do the right thing when > it comes to Java and make it Free Software. > > This is a *big* move for me as I have use a lot of the libraries under Jakarta > (I used to be a fulltime developer there) and a lot of them require code from > the standard JDK. > > Of course part of my migration to GCJ is going to be working on the stdlib so > that I can compile complex appls like Xalan on GCJ. Remember that GNU has the ClasspathX project which has the GNU-JAXP implementation. We don't yet have XSLT but I plan to write a GNU-JAXP wrapper (assuming GCJ) for libxslt. Nic