From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ! in Dired--what was the outcome? Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:44:44 +0300 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87zn343792.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <200409220205.i8M25YO10544@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096768233 1914 80.91.229.6 (3 Oct 2004 01:50:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Luc Teirlinck , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 03 03:50:20 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CDvVz-0008IN-00 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:50:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDvcV-0006nM-U5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDvcP-0006n7-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDvcO-0006mv-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDvcO-0006ms-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.33.205.9] (helo=spatula.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CDvVg-00046W-3l; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:50:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-37-197-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.37.197]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D8017D02E; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:19:08 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27817 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27817 Richard Stallman writes: > But then Juri pointed out that several other problems needed to be > solved before this could be implemented. I believe you then decided > that these other problems should be solved. > > Can you find what those other problems were? > Do they apply to the precise proposal which is to do this with ?, > rather than with *? The main problem I see is that special text properties may not be visible to the user (remember the recent problem with help-argument-name where italics is not displayed in some fonts). It makes this feature quite dangerous if the command doesn't do what the user sees on the command line in the minibuffer. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/