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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk
Subject: Re: Risky local variable mechanism
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:08:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zml2e6eb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602080548.k185m9424791@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2006 23:48:09 -0600 (CST)")

> (put 'myvar 'safe-local-variable t) in his .emacs.  There is, in my
> opinion, no need to make this any more convenient than that, neither
> the way you propose it nor the way Stefan proposes it.

The convenience I'm looking at is at least as much to be able to easily say
"yes, accept, and don't bother me about it again", as to be able to say "no,
don't touch that, and don't ask me ever again".

> There is no need to provide list variables defined with defcustom that
> trick the user into setting these list variables effectively with
> setq-default, which is definitely not what they should be doing.

The automatic/interactive part of what I propose would be things that are
only set by the user, so custom could be OK for them.

> I believe that it is very bad to ask each time _two_ questions to the
> user, first "do you want to set this variable to this value now" and
> then "is it safe to set this variable to any value whatsoever any time
> in the future?".

> Constantly repeating that second question each time
> the user visits the file, even though he may already have answered
> 1001 times no to it before, is effectively not only encouraging, but
> even pressuring, the reluctant user to finally say yes.

Agreed.  My suggestion tries to address both of those points.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-08  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-31 23:09 Risky local variable mechanism Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-01  0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-01  0:41   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-01  2:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-02  4:17   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-02 12:42     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-03 23:43       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-04  4:34         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-05 17:34           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-06  6:00             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-07  6:07               ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-07  2:47             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-07 16:45         ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  1:49           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  2:09             ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  2:18               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  4:30                 ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  4:56                   ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  5:02                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  5:00                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  5:28                     ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  3:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-08  4:51               ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  5:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-08  5:25                   ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08  6:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-08 13:35                       ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-08 21:41                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-08  6:06                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  6:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-08  5:48                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  6:08                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2006-02-08  6:17                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  6:48                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-09 17:47                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-09 17:47                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-10 23:57                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-08  9:21                 ` Juri Linkov
2006-02-08 12:48                   ` Disabled commands (was: Risky local variable mechanism) Stefan Monnier
2006-02-09 17:48                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-09 22:07                       ` Disabled commands Stefan Monnier
2006-02-10  2:30                         ` Miles Bader
2006-02-10  7:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-13  8:36                         ` Bill Wohler
2006-02-13  9:26                           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-13  9:43                             ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-02-13 13:54                           ` Romain Francoise
2006-02-09 18:46                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-02-08 15:45                 ` Risky local variable mechanism Drew Adams
2006-02-09  3:58                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-09 17:48           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-10  5:34         ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-10 17:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-10 17:54             ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-11  0:31           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-12  1:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-12  4:30             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-11  3:31           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-12  1:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-12  1:15               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-11 16:44           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-14  1:33         ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-14  2:50           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-14 22:17             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-14  3:16           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-14  3:32             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-14  3:38               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-14  3:48             ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-14  4:11               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-14  4:26                 ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-16 14:02           ` safe-local-variable additions (was: Risky local variable mechanism) Reiner Steib
2006-02-17  2:47             ` safe-local-variable additions Chong Yidong
2006-02-17 14:30               ` Reiner Steib
2006-02-02 12:47     ` Risky local variable mechanism Kim F. Storm
2006-02-01  2:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-02  4:15   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-02  9:54     ` David Kastrup
2006-02-02 14:54       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-03  5:04         ` Richard M. Stallman
     [not found] <E1F46oA-0005O8-FC@monty-python.gnu.org>
2006-02-01 15:24 ` Jonathan Yavner
2006-02-01 17:00   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-01 23:31     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-02  5:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-01 23:12   ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-02 16:21   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-02 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-02  8:14 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-02-10 18:13 risky " Jonathan Yavner
2006-02-11  3:19 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-13  4:40   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-11 17:08 ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-11 20:27   ` Jonathan Yavner
2006-02-11 20:46     ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-12 19:29       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-12 19:52         ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-13 20:05           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-13 21:03             ` Chong Yidong
2006-02-12  1:10     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-02-12 19:29       ` Richard M. Stallman

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