From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: faq.texi Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:54:51 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87zml09go4.fsf@jurta.org> References: <878xstfkz2.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87d5i23qek.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87psm0n9x9.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87lkwnkmcb.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <8764npegbm.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87bqxgdevj.fsf@jurta.org> <87oe1gfbkd.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139534021 4825 80.91.229.2 (10 Feb 2006 01:13:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: romain@orebokech.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 02:13:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7Mqh-0000yV-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:13:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7Mqe-0006h1-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:13:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7MjQ-0001Lz-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:05:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7MjN-0001J5-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7MjN-0001Iw-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7Mmy-0002fS-2S; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:09:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-37-98-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.37.98]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E076332; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:05:43 +0200 (EET) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:07:30 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50290 Archived-At: >> - one key to bind to isearch-yank-line (not C-y) >> - one key to exit isearch and yank (S-insert) > > Yeah, like I said: you ``consistently'' dislike both C-y and S-Ins in > this context. By contrast, what I said is if C-y does something, > S-Ins should do the same. The consistency I meant is for C-y and M-y to have the same non-isearch meaning in isearch mode: for C-y to yank last killed text into the search string, and for M-y to yank earlier kills into the search string. But not all consistencies are equally good. C-y is a bad keybinding for isearch-yank-line, and making S-Insert consistent with a bad keybinding makes things worse: it doesn't do what beginners expect (the initial request was exactly about this, i.e. "I can't paste via Shift+Insert or yank via C-y") and also it takes away a good keybinding from other users to exit isearch and to yank with one key. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/