From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:09:48 -0400 Message-ID: <87zlsouef7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206385995 14435 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2008 19:13:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 20:13:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jds6w-0005mD-7d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:13:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jds6L-00024n-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jds6G-000213-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jds6F-0001yp-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jds6F-0001ym-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jds6F-0003kf-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 241AF4E3F3; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:09:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Sascha Wilde's message of "Mon\, 24 Mar 2008 19\:40\:37 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93317 Archived-At: Sascha Wilde writes: > I liked the philosophy behind the old way better: make the defaults > simple and clean and leave it to the user to turn on all the bells, > whistles and trautonii he likes. Only within reason. For example, we turn Font Lock mode on by default. Similarly, Transient Mark mode works very well (due to years of Emacs hackers turning it on in their own init files), and provides a real benefit to new users (direct visual feedback). If there is any subset of Transient Mark mode behavior that people feel is too intrusive to be the default, such as commands activate the mark unnecesarily, we can always tweak that. Don't worry---we aren't gonna go down the path of XEmacs.