From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:22:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87zlmtitzt.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <87wshzpszz.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <48B87A2D.3050406@emf.net> <878wueq1yx.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220163792 13698 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2008 06:23:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 31 08:24:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZgLz-00041M-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:24:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZgL0-0003MT-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZgKw-0003LN-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZgKq-0003KC-J2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:22:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54109 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZgKq-0003K9-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:22:52 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:60847) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZgKi-0001Hq-OE; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id 877FE4A0008; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:22:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (217-68-166-87.dynamic.primacom.net [217.68.166.87]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEE62F00C4; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:22:41 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:30:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103298 Archived-At: "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > Dired is the Emacs version of a directory browser. So I think it > makes sense to understand Dired in comparison to other directory > browsers. Yup, I do that. And compared to my other directory browser in the GNU system, the combination of bash, ls etc., Emacs' current behaviour is totally consistent within its environment. Does the GNU midnight commander has a notion of a trash can? Or any other GNU program besides GNOME at all? If the freedesktop project proposes a trash-can spec, I don't mind if the freedesktop spec conformant version of Emacs adheres to that. But as long as Emacs supports running outside of a freedesktop environment (as it does here), please don't impose by default a behaviour that absolutely doesn't fit within anything else but Windows or the freedesktop environment. Hannes