From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on GNUstep (was: Release update) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:54:30 +0900 Message-ID: <87zlj9oi15.fsf@xemacs.org> References: <87ej0rs3ey.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87tz9j6f76.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> <200812052044154371169@foxmail.com> <200812061459462792341@foxmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228549746 6875 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2008 07:49:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Yavor Doganov , emacs-devel , Stefan Monnier , rms To: "richardeng" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 08:50:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L8rvT-0005Ga-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8ruI-0001AO-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8ruE-00019y-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8ruB-00017M-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42645 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8ruB-00017J-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:53175) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ru7-0002RR-FU; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ru6-0007XZ-Fw; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:48:42 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4B78213; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:48:23 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A6FE1A327D; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:54:30 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <200812061459462792341@foxmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 83e35df20028+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106627 Archived-At: richardeng writes: > > Or a portable dumper which reloads the Lisp environemnt into a new > > malloc'd area, and doesn't care about all that. > > It doesn't seem a easy job. It isn't, and I don't know if the one that has been written for Emacs would serve as well as the one XEmacs has; Emacs might need to start from scratch. I'm just reminding Stefan that there's a long-term solution with lots of benefits that go beyond making GNUStep a first-class citizen of the community.