From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new Emacs HELLO file?? Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:47:19 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87zl946g9k.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87fxbb7hp1.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87hbvrk2df.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87tyzr5pq4.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87fxba1e92.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ab1if6dj.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <874orp82se.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87pracvwz9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878wgqwaz5.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252466160 3396 80.91.229.12 (9 Sep 2009 03:16:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 03:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: kawabata.taichi@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 05:15:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MlDey-0006mW-Mp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:15:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39911 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlDex-0001Ug-Tl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlDdX-0001Bl-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:14:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlDdT-00019Y-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40179 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlDdT-00019U-8G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:55481 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlDdS-0007YE-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:14:19 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.28.177.cable.starman.ee [82.131.28.177]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D523F4288; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 06:14:08 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <878wgqwaz5.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> (kawabata taichi's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:12:30 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115160 Archived-At: > Language Tags are not recommended by the Unicode (as long as there is > other ways to describe language, such as XML lang attributes), but it i= s > the only way to describe language in plain text. Or switch we switch > HELLO file from plain text to some XML format? Or maybe switch to a simpler markup like in emacs/etc/enriched.doc (and add the language tag support to this format). > I'll attach updated HELLO examples as follows, that incorporates all th= e > languages I could find "HELLO" word, plus Language Tag usage examples > (someday Emacs may support it?) and fixed the logical order of Arabic > language. Thanks, your new list is surprisingly compact. I have only a few comment= s. 1. In the current HELLO file the greeting in Slovak is correct (see http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dobr%C3%BD_de%C5%88 ) and displays non-ASCII characters. I think it's better to keep the current greeting for Slovak. 2. Esperanto used to display a nice diacritical pangram "E=C4=A5o=C5=9Dan= =C4=9Do =C4=89iu=C4=B5a=C5=ADde". Even thought it's not a greeting, I think we should keep it. 3. You could replace the old Euro currency U+20A0 =E2=82=A0 with the new = one U+20AC =E2=82=AC. 4. Klingon uses the Private Use Area U+F8D0 - U+F8FF http://www.wazu.jp/gallery/Test_Klingon.html 5. You've removed charsets jisx0201 and jisx0208 from Japanese greetings. Is it because they are not needed for font selection, or just because the transfer charset in your message was utf-8? --=20 Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/