From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker. Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:23 -0500 Message-ID: <87zl4hfpm4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87iqb5o7ie.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pr5d5xco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bpgxo5m3.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263432104 7001 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 01:21:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 02:21:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVEP1-00027w-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:21:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEP2-0006h5-AV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEOw-0006gq-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEOs-0006gF-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33115 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEOr-0006gC-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po43.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.104]:46297) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVEOp-000804-RZ; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014123.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po43.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0E1LNGl024931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:21:23 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B37BC05D; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:21:23 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <87bpgxo5m3.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:36 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119953 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: >>Hm, is that really true? It seems more like there are so many other >>_bad_ trackers out there. > > Yes, I believe it is really true. I've used a lot of trackers (as I'm > sure you have), and none discourage me the way this one does. > > I'm sure there are user demographics for whom it is the right solution > -- Debian Developers are probably one such! But Emacs developers are > not. Why do you say that it is the right solution for Debian developers but not Emacs developers? Speaking for myself, I find it pretty convenient that I can easily manipulate bugs from within Emacs itself (including CC'ing both individuals and, when necessary, emacs-devel).