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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: more on anything.el inclusion
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:53:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkxwbycx.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AANLkTikdotXNaBFOpTGtWbrPeVRpXQ31KggiW410BoIM@mail.gmail.com

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:27:45 -0400 MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com> wrote: 

MK> Maybe Icicles and Antyhing code/features could/should be merged before
MK> inclusion in Emacs.

MK> FTR I use neither Anything nor Icicles and couldn't endorse either
MK> from experience.  However, I have watched the progress of their
MK> respective development with interest.

I used both anything.el and Icicles for a long time (though I stopped
using Icicles a year ago).  They can't be merged.  At best you can pick
features from both.

MK> It is wrongheaded to arbitrarily incorporate external packages which
MK> duplicate existing core behaviour/features such that the duplication
MK> of the new (however useful) is better positioned to becomes the norm
MK> simply by virtue of the pain imposed on emacs-devels to retrofit a
MK> core API after the fact.

I disagree with your phrasing ("arbitrarily" and "duplication" in
particular) and your conclusions.

MK> IOW lets say anything.el were to be included in Emacs and it became so
MK> widely adopted that it was deemed worthwhile to attempt a retroactive
MK> metaleval API (including C primitives). Were Stefan or some other
MK> devel to endeavor implementation of such an API they might be hard
MK> pressed to maintain backwards compatibility with the existing
MK> anything.el procedures and prob. alienate the primary anything.el user
MK> base to boot.

Well, that's why I asked Stefan what his decision was.  If he says "no"
that's fine.  I think he can judge the effort and significance of an
alternative to the standard completion mechanism.

Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-12 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-10 18:27 more on anything.el inclusion MON KEY
2010-07-10 19:20 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-12 13:53 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-29 12:43 No answer on bugs Thierry Volpiatto
2010-06-30 18:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-06-30 18:36   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-06-30 19:23     ` more on anything.el inclusion (was: No answer on bugs) Ted Zlatanov
2010-06-30 20:10       ` more on anything.el inclusion Thierry Volpiatto
2010-06-30 22:59         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-01  5:53           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01  6:48             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-01  7:50               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01  8:36                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-01  8:53                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01 16:02                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-01 16:33                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-07-01 16:43                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-01 17:18                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01 17:43                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-01 18:14                           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01 18:48                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-01 18:57                           ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-07-01 17:36                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-07-01 13:18                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-01 14:15                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-01 14:48                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-01 15:55                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-01 16:43                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-01 18:55                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-01 22:08                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 14:46                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-17 13:37                   ` rubikitch
2010-07-17 15:16                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-07-04 22:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-07 16:47                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-07-23 15:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-23 21:49                     ` rubikitch
2010-08-12 23:02                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-24 19:24                         ` rubikitch
2010-08-25 13:51                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-09-11 12:02                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-09-11 11:59                           ` Thierry Volpiatto

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