From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:52:08 +0300 Message-ID: <87zkl07t3r.fsf@mithlond.arda> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309348370 23637 80.91.229.12 (29 Jun 2011 11:52:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 29 13:52:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtK2-0002UL-2C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:52:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtK0-00032E-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtJe-00030o-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:52:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtJc-0006Ah-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:52:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mta-out.inet.fi ([195.156.147.13]:34419 helo=kirsi1.inet.fi) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtJZ-00068d-RN; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mithlond.arda (84.251.132.215) by kirsi1.inet.fi (8.5.133) id 4DF73CDC00A6FC4C; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:52:09 +0300 Original-Received: from dtw by mithlond.arda with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QbtJQ-0000sX-Lu; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:52:08 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 29 Jun 2011 06:58:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 195.156.147.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141167 Archived-At: * 2011-06-29T06:58:03-04:00 * Richard Stallman wrote: >> Times have moved on. All other modern mail readers have moved on from >> trying to use the local MTA to send email out, because the world has >> changed. These days, it's way more likely that you need to talk to >> your ISPs local servers directly, and you need to fill out some >> credentials tied to your account. > > If a client program can do that, why can't Exim do that? Exim can, but (1) root account is needed to configure that and (2) it's convenient if user can do all his email configuration from his email client. I think configuring Exim or Postfix or other MTA is too low-level for a normal user.