From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display-buffer-alist simplifications Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:39:42 +0900 Message-ID: <87zkjxq2zl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87mxgem09k.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2A7EBD.7050300@gmx.at> <87livooqt6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2B158B.1080101@gmx.at> <87wrf8iyse.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2BEED2.5040608@gmx.at> <8739hvu6lh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2C50E6.3020103@gmx.at> <878vrnweju.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E2D34D7.4040002@gmx.at> <87r55cjvef.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87sjpsnerd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87d3gvqhkd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874o26rgq6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311903590 21591 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2011 01:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, rudalics@gmx.at, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 29 03:39:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmc3E-0004ZP-Ma for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:39:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45406 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmc3D-0004qV-E3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmc3A-0004qO-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmc39-0004ji-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:43252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmc38-0004jB-5g; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BA63FA0727; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:39:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A8EA11A26F8; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:39:42 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" cd1f8c4e81cd XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142475 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > You will most probably disagree, but that's MO. I do disagree about policy (I think that it may be a good idea to consider merging code like bidi, lexbind, and display-buffer at an earlier stage on an explicitly experimental "we're probably going to have to take it out, but we need to know what only the users can tell us for future work" basis), but how is that "disrespectful"? Note that I didn't propose that people discount the maintainers' considered opinions, only that they not argue against reversion simply because it means changing code that's been approved. IMHO it's more disrespectful to suggest that the maintainers can't change their minds! Anyway, the word "experiment" is appropriate until you propose a more accurate one that takes into account both the maintainers' approval and the uncertainty of success.