From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: ELPA and core services Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:39:27 +0900 Message-ID: <87zk7s80ow.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87vcij7rvi.fsf@mithlond.arda> <82d34r8ej9.fsf@gmail.com> <87r4t4zr9l@ch.ristopher.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340599175 29347 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2012 04:39:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 25 06:39:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj15K-0007Sw-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:39:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj15K-00084x-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj15H-00084p-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj15F-0002lE-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:43220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj15F-0002l4-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:39:29 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949B3FA0862; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:39:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 41B651A355D; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:39:27 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" b4715fcbe001 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151147 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > Please, please no. I use lots of Emacsen on lots of machines, and only a few > have my configuration copied over. Please don't turn unconfigured Emacsen > into brain-dead zombies of little value. That won't happen. XEmacs made the mistake of distributing core XEmacs without the SUMO package, but Emacs doesn't need to make the same mistake, and even if it did it would be easy to rectify once you have a package system. (It's also not that big a mistake, as the continued, if attenuated, existence of XEmacs shows.) > Now, this I agree with completely. ELPA overrides is a great idea, and I > think it could accelerate development -- as long as inter-package version > dependencies are managed. I doubt it will accelerate development by much. Managing the real dependencies between separately maintained code bases (even if they're in the same tree!) is what slows down development, not distributing changes.