From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Call for testing: Daily snapshot builds of Emacs for Ubuntu Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 18:06:42 +0900 Message-ID: <87zjvyc4m5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87wqr3fdr6.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368522425 4562 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2013 09:07:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Park Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 14 11:07:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UcBCH-0006yC-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:07:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44178 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcBCG-0002Lb-Lv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 05:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcBCD-0002J6-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 05:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcBC7-0006zn-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 05:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:41717) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcBC7-0006yA-Ah; Tue, 14 May 2013 05:06:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE8397096C; Tue, 14 May 2013 18:06:42 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7187C1A4F35; Tue, 14 May 2013 18:06:42 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159564 Archived-At: Robert Park writes: > I'll have to do some further research to find out why it was chosen to > leave site-start.el blank and see about perhaps dropping this > particular distropatch from the official debian packaging. Debian admins are often role-your-own types who take "site-specific" seriously, and get pissed off if the distro overwrites their local changes. Since site-start.el has historically been reserved for site-specific initialization, Debian prefers to put its stuff in distro-specific places. While it's been about a decade and a half since I discussed this with a Debian maintainer, I'd bet on no change. Red Hat (and admins who use it) tends to be more pragmatic, preferring simple and standardized, and willing to impose (or accept the imposition) of (relatively) standard hardware, software, and configurations in the interest of improving support.