From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-h r and Images Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:37:52 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87zjrv8167.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87y57fe2ej.fsf@gmail.com> <831u57e089.fsf@gnu.org> <5224AEB3.5000508@cs.ucla.edu> <878uzf5dvr.fsf@gmail.com> <50869c34-8cb2-477b-a6a8-a393abb76d12@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378150846 6128 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2013 19:40:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , Jambunathan K , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 02 21:40:49 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGZzU-0001Fj-PL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:40:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41804 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGZzT-0005qo-TQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:40:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGZzM-0005pm-Aj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:40:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGZzH-0001J8-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:34358 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGZzB-0001Gp-2N; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C77258B9E935; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:40:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50869c34-8cb2-477b-a6a8-a393abb76d12@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.218.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163141 Archived-At: >> My motivation for the post was the thread in help list and a recurrent >> confusion between a frame and a window. >> >> It is easier to show >> - a window >> - a frame >> - a minibuffer >> - a header line >> - a mode line >> >> with a single shot rather than explain it in Glossary. > > Great idea. (Not either/or, of course.) Something like http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DrewsEmacsWindowCallouts but in a plain vanilla `emacs -Q' rather than Drewmacs :-) >> Btw, looking at Glossary for Window, I am surprised that I don't know >> what (q.v.) stands for. The Emacs crowd *was* scholarly and academic >> and it is to some extent even so today. But using things like q.v. etc >> and assuming that it will be understood by *lay* crowd is a bit too much >> for the asking... > > Yes, it's silly, if not downright pretentious in this context. Which is also easy to confuse with "quo vadis" :-) > What's more, it would be helpful to hyperlink directly to an explanation > of the term in question, rather than just saying "which see" or some such > English alternative to "q.v." Linking directly to an explanation is possible with Info "anchors".