From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:29:02 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87zjncyr9t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <8761q1ljny.fsf@gmail.com> <20140103175006.GE17261@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388831365 20429 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 10:29:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:29:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 11:29:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTy-0007Az-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:29:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTx-00014L-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:29:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTp-00013x-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:29:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTj-000797-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:29:21 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36909) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTj-000792-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:29:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOTh-0006bI-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:29:13 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f4ba0b.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.186.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:29:13 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f4ba0b.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:29:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f4ba0b.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Hy3hT34Wbwe5vyY1UwiWFSHPhQ4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167272 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Our ChangeLog files are very useful in debugging. > They complement the diffs between versions of the source files. So do commit messages. What makes Git commit messages eternally more useful in practice is the versatility: I can _immediately_ view just the messages pertaining to a subdirectory, or a file, or a branch (without checking it out), and when I use the --grep option, I get the matching commit messages in full rather than a -3 style context when using grep on a ChangeLog file. And even when I want to search for a flat text in the single ChangeLog of the top directory, the best use case for a ChangeLog file, this is less convenient the moment a ChangeLog file has to be split. And git log is reliable. When I ask Git for all commit messages touching a certain file, it will not miss changes. It will, when I want, give the respective diffs (-p option) along with the commit messages, or just a list of changed files (--stat). -- David Kastrup