From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:01:22 +0530 Message-ID: <87zjkxx985.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20140219080524.25689b6b@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83k3cr58o2.fsf@gnu.org> <530BAEE5.9040004@online.de> <87ppmatkpe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqgfsxsr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqgf37n4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ha7gshu9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tyko9l5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87eh2ks897.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvn0mk25.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87bnxorlol.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877g8bmxal.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877g8asfl0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8738iyjrl3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87mwh5ridq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqg9hn10.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k3c9rddu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvmxhfi3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394537451 27445 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2014 11:30:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 12:31:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WNKte-0008F4-Iv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:30:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNKte-0003gk-0c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35967) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNKtW-0003Ws-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNKtR-0002nD-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]:36292) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNKtQ-0002mz-SK; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id hz1so8642304pad.21 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 04:30:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Ydl19E36UQayGkh0phxSuF+WF0p9z7kcj2EaHhvqUZo=; b=CiZnS0h/A5hLXlcg19TlQA+PI4YhfelLODydDGQW25OtTwbMqdzQFvZeEO7cpA3J4U RPJ6BNAzEwQdjsVGyUw8PQ46cmOHdp8or2JX4XVtq5/FdcAT9yA5GcBpGQQpfp6ZD4/T q8pjjCxEfBhNWmRN7ECHJnxYYoQEU+pkWayXRiAPNzmg0u73C18wWO1wkdx7dJcDZSZh IC8RkP40kbVnqFC5EwEm1h15yTO2nz0LZZKeBYzbeFn+Dy9Rf9NGKiKI4YyvaJ8J+EZK FMeUOxzUDpNPEKOybgJYAWTopXhMIuJeDpHIEO01H4Q8LYZQxJZ6Yw0ni4RpUbaiDScl +OZw== X-Received: by 10.66.176.143 with SMTP id ci15mr46401803pac.35.1394537443213; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 04:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.253.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ug9sm73479196pbc.11.2014.03.11.04.30.40 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Mar 2014 04:30:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fvmxhfi3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:32:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170277 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > "dialects" I find the way you construct your sentences - the way the words are stringed together - is a bit "atypical". Not wrong. But atypical. (Instead of "atypical" I could have used "original". But I have some serious reservations). Mr. Turnbull is a keen observer. He did well by shifting his attention away from moot points to the specific words and sentences used to support it. > causations Let there be no doubt. Your use of causation threw me off as well. The Trail leading to a Mountain doesn't cause the Mountain. Water or Nutrients don't cause a Tree. Instead of saying "Causation", I would have really liked to see you articulate your position as: 1. We want a trail here. 2. We don't want a trail here. 3. We don't want to fill their water tanks. 4. Our water first goes to our taps before it hits the neighbour's. Essentially you are not talking of causation per-se, but conditions that favor or hinder a particular result. If you want another word, I would suggest something along the lines of "catalyst". 1. This work will catalyze our effort. 2. This work will catalyze their effort. You get the idea.