From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw string literals in Emacs lisp. Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:13:33 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87zjfphm42.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <878ungor1v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ijng08.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tt7lzro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53D567FD.4030708@porkrind.org> <87r412iobp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <53D9586F.6020705@porkrind.org> <87bns6in3g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877g2uim3h.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406801645 13512 80.91.229.3 (31 Jul 2014 10:14:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:14:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 12:13:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnN0-0006BP-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnN0-0005Y3-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:13:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnMs-0005Q0-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:13:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnMn-0000Qh-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:13:50 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnMn-0000Qc-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XCnMl-0005ux-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:13:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WwyFj+Eu2FVOETyPeaPbqNC4SoU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173313 Archived-At: On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:19:07 -0700 Matthew Plant wrote: TZ> Maybe LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET and RIGHT TZ> DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET would work (they look like << and >>). MP> I'm pretty sure that those look like existing ASCII characters as well ;-) (Your quoting is strange, could you please use a better MUA?) I'm honestly happy with anything that works. I actually had the French-style (used in many countries) guillemets in mind, like « for LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK. Those: * do not look too much like << in most fonts... * ...but are close enough to be familiar * are used in many locales to quote text already * already have keyboard shortcuts on many platforms (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet#Typing_.22.C2.AB.22_and_.22.C2.BB.22_on_computers) * are just extended ASCII, so they are already universally supported, both at the font and at the platform level So, two questions: - can anyone think of better markers for rawstring / raw regex literals? - are the markers proposed here going to resolve the backwards-scanning issue? And is that all that's blocking the proposal? Ted