From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:36:06 +0900 Message-ID: <87zjad4t3t.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419393668 21395 80.91.229.3 (24 Dec 2014 04:01:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 04:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, Nic Ferrier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 24 05:01:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3d88-0002S4-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:01:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46962 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3d87-0007Yu-Gp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 23:00:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3d83-0007Yp-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 23:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3d82-0004Fd-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 23:00:55 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:58623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3d7y-0004AR-P7; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 23:00:51 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D57611C3901; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:36:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD38B1A2CFC; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:36:06 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180613 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > But this is largely unrelated to the "inside Emacs manual browsing", > because there's no way Emacs will be able to render this kind of > HTML+Javascript efficiently any time soon, I think. Of course it can -- by hardcoding the Javascript (and CSS!) *functionality* in EWW (or a derived mode specifically for browsing Info-HTML). You don't need to be able to parse and interpret Javascript or CSS to provide equivalent functionality to the Javascript and CSS recommended by Emacs. Of course this violates DRY to some extent. > So, Nic's work is not competing against info.el, and it's actually > a work that tends to vote in favor of keeping Texinfo as the source > documentation format. Agree.