From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving browsing and discoverability in the Packages Menu Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 06:05:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87zj62unvk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871tjgj010.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <7b3b0d19-01d4-4f97-b85e-19383bee5605@default> <87twwbdwjd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87d22zcde3.fsf@gmail.com> <60cf8797-6524-4bf3-8ff5-b8a74736eff6@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429589175 14367 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2015 04:06:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 04:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 06:06:04 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YkPRj-0008As-Mf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 06:06:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56193 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkPRi-0002ZQ-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkPRe-0002ZI-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkPRb-00029u-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:60351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkPRb-00029q-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:55 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2530208C4 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=U3UGnA729t1xAMSGFXtZUncg5gs=; b=BdPOB 6OzertS68VbUT0WFOHo1/E9WmfCzwBviKoNgB9UORs6/jotIkIx0JRoyb7bmdkbM sKfr88q0cDn1mFD7FUql50Xg6J7DENM4S1b5miTIGlZzUHxhdppzKjH0C3OmN6lA cArXbGkO/1e6A2ZC98gxgb1JTXs7cMCP0RYarM= X-Sasl-enc: VtRccBInAg57oJ8RcxBmBnG0123LPI3zfoyuVS6hy3b1 1429589154 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (unknown [2.161.236.134]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B0E75C00011; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Mail-Followup-To: Drew Adams , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185739 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> For instance, there are 3 different mode-line keywords: mode-line, >> modeline, and mode line. The last two contain a single package each, >> both of which will not show up if the user looks for the "mode-line" >> keword... > > Yes, it's a bother. But there is no way to know what is a typo or > negligence and what is intentional difference, e.g. required by some > particular code or context. If it were intended by the package author, where is the problem of adding ;; byte-compile-warnings: (not unknown-keyword) to the package's local variables section? > That's why I suggest that you start out with a new, fresh field, which > you announce as pretty much dedicated to package.el and which will be > controlled by it. I don't see why `Keywords' shouldn't be appropriate for elisp programs installable via package.el. It's not that it re-defines its meaning. The benefit of using it is that it's already there most of the time. A new field would take some time to get picked up. And I'm pretty sure you won't see any occurrence of ;; Keywords: modeline, electronic mail ;; Package Keywords: mode-line, email even if there was a new field. Bye, Tassilo