From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? 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[74.92.190.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o201sm220142ioe.15.2016.03.07.15.24.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:24:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2b018d70-3ad7-7a20-54e6-e367abd718dd@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:45:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201097 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: >On 03/08/2016 12:24 AM, Karl Fogel wrote: >> I looked again -- who are these "many"? > >ESR, =C3=93scar, Andy. Maybe others. >Also John, of course. The Emacs Maintainer one. Uh, hmm. We are having some sort of miscommunication. I can't figure out = what it is, because I expressed myself as precisely as I can -- and when I = look at their messages, in this thread and the related thread, what they're= saying is compatible with what I described them as saying. :-)