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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: replacing ldefs-boot.el
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:19:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zikmbfie.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM-tV-9pCxzkMkL5sv+yKX1Cv1Q7=XsxfrkhbEdTqy1mz04_bQ@mail.gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:34:34 -0500")

Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
>> I have no idea what percentage of those commits are actually necessary
>> -- the unfortunate reality is that you can only test this with a full
>> bootstrap build which is something that most developers do rarely.
>
> My guess is that with the smaller ldefs-boot-auto it will be necessary
> more often. But maybe not enough to matter, hard to say.

Actually, it should be *necessary* exactly as often as now. We need a
certain number of autoloads to bootstrap. Both ldefs-boot-auto and
ldefs-boot provide these. But ldefs-boot provides many more as well.

The differnce is that when regenerating ldefs-boot-auto.el, we (should)
only get changes that really are necessary.


>>> I notice several almost duplicated lines in ldefs-boot-auto.el, like
>>>
>>> (autoload 'byte-compile "bytecomp" nil nil nil)
>>> (autoload 'byte-compile "bytecomp" nil nil t)
>>>
>>> byte-compile isn't a macro; I think you should put your addition to
>>> Fautoload_do_load after the "if (EQ (macro_only, Qmacro))" check to
>>> avoid falsely identifying macros.
>>
>> Yeah, that's a screw up, thanks for picking this up.
>>
>> I don't understand the semantics of the macro_only parameter, at all,
>> nor what that if statement is doing, but I'll try this fix.
>
> I think the value of FUNDEF tells you whether it's a macro, the
> macro_only parameter just says to do nothing for non-macros.

I changed my condition to this:

      Lisp_Object kind = Fnth (make_number (4), fundef);
      if (! (EQ (kind, Qt) || EQ (kind, Qmacro)))
        {
          fprintf(stderr, "nil");
        }
      else
        {
          fprintf(stderr, "t");
        }


which seems to work.


>>
>>> And doesn't this change in Makefile.in break parallel 'make bootstrap'
>>> invocations?
>>>
>>> -bootstrap: bootstrap-clean
>>> +bootstrap: bootstrap-clean bootstrap-build
>>> +
>>> +bootstrap-build:
>>
>> Does it? bootstrap-clean and bootstrap-build cannot be run in parallel
>> anyway.
>
> Right. And I think the definitions you put would let make run them in
> parallel, thus breaking things.


bootstrap: | bootstrap-clean bootstrap-build

?

Phil



  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-26 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-20 17:46 replacing ldefs-boot.el Phillip Lord
2016-11-20 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-20 21:28   ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-21  3:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-21 22:03       ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-25 11:23         ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-25 13:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-25 18:10             ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-25 19:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-25 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26  6:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 12:08                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-25 21:34                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-25 23:18                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-11-26 20:59                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-27 20:14               ` Nicolas Petton
2016-11-25 21:11         ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-25 21:57           ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-26  5:34             ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-26 12:19               ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2016-11-27 23:04                 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-29 14:57                   ` Phillip Lord
2016-11-27 21:19         ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-13 12:17 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-13 14:02   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-12-14 11:53     ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-13 14:58   ` John Wiegley
2016-12-13 16:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-14 12:00     ` Phillip Lord

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