From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:46:42 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87zhxa6new.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> References: <444779489.8504194.1534538988289@mail.yahoo.com> <83sh3cfb3t.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh36inql.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <20180825004518.nkobqhdvarcv7mzq@Ergus> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535288777 30273 195.159.176.226 (26 Aug 2018 13:06:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:06:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 26 15:06:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ftuk8-0007li-9Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:06:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49086 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftumE-0007Lc-Db for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:08:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48216) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftukx-0007LO-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftukw-00067G-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([2a01:238:20a:202:5300::4]:24452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ftukt-0005zw-VV; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:07:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1535288816; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=Sender:References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=YfJkuKNGAJWMl6HyhDlmFRaojIbY2yh05/wK3x5iVuw=; b=beM0RLVZYfXo5oy0QmOPKZvN+Te46GtVwm/h6FQoOsqfiPX6d8C8OVO4VQXUxRlsbC YIEuhYM98Ui/WD+H9RNbbmdA2AOxAjyaQurB83lKncKnx9GGan70LxD0cY0GxPjkSYsx usrz9BaUgDdrapdy8D3CpEy5s/AvgLNEaPvfnbzn3Hv4zh44sWKXPQY572mPZu27BPlF 9S+uZun97OH6K0JJn/0zJedFLYpH/HhGzi/W9AIxos2nou0tSGGZOnH48jppLaqz+THV dHujPVxVLweUviFeecgIN6OgpCUwtyd60otGO9FyHYybxtvx/xRiIvK5aTgkaGH4Tw30 L+oA== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+AVdIIwXjneEe9k=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Original-Received: from lee by himinbjorg.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ftukp-0000Rs-Ug; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:06:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180825004518.nkobqhdvarcv7mzq@Ergus> (Ergus's message of "Sat, 25 Aug 2018 02:45:18 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a01:238:20a:202:5300::4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228926 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > [...] > I propose a simple online survey, but I don't know what platform will you approve for this: > > Some of my proposed questions are: (more or less) > [...] The assumption that there are qualified classes of users may be false or true. How could the answers to these questions show which is the case, and how do the answers allow to derive qualified classes of users from them? This survey could be extremely difficult to do because you need to make a very detailed anticipation of what you're asking about to ensure that you are asking the right questions without influencing the result through the way the questions are formed, and all that before you could verify whether what you are trying to find something out about does indeed exist or not. What is the usual way scientists have to research a recursive problem like this? Find out if there are qualified classes of users first, then what they might be and then what settings they are using? PS: I just noticed that the bug tracker must have a collection of settings because some are being reported when making a bug report. Is there a way to find out what most bug reporters use for some of the settings, using this information?