From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:17:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87zhomoz8s.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <83a7gofv94.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1fqcv4t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="96217"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 19 16:25:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hHUS2-000Opo-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:25:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57224 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHUS1-0004Tx-LR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:25:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHURI-0004Jo-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:24:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHUL8-0003if-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=36930 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHUL7-0003fJ-Rn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hHUL4-000GDw-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:18:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:FhIv0QYTyz41XyuznR7N/C6Txq0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235659 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Are all those dependencies necessary? > > The answer depends on what you intend to do with Emacs. Phillip goes to great lengths to be helpful, but IMO he is distributing too much stuff. There are plenty of dlls on the Emacs /bin directory with potential to break things. It would break my setup for sure, because it contains the tcl/tk dlls that will interfere with what I have installed. >> According to the GNU Emacs FAQ for MS Windows they are Windows 98 and >> Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. It doesn't make sense claiming >> Windows 98 support without not also ensuring that the software fits on >> a hard disk a Windows 98 user would use. > > We have the no-deps package for people whose disk space is at premium. > And anyway, are you saying that a 100MB file doesn't fit on a typical > disk of a Windows 9X system? There's a limit to exaggeration when you > want to make a point; if you exceed that limit, your arguments run the > risk that people will not regard them as serious. 106 MB is the zip file. 366 MB unzipped. If the Windows 98 machine runs on a surviving machine of the same era, that's a big chunk of a typical hard drive.