From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using eww as browser for Emacs internals and documentation Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:43:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87zhfg2i9b.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87pngggdma.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bls0t00q.fsf@gnus.org> <87woammyb4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfr1wxo6.fsf@gnu.org> <87mubhduqh.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="93322"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 22:44:01 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERl-000O4w-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:44:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49382 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERk-0003WY-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:44:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERe-0003WO-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:43:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERc-0007gH-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:43:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49132) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERc-0007di-OE; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from 77.16.52.139.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.16.52.139] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ikERV-0002ic-Bx; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:43:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mubhduqh.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 25 Dec 2019 02:36:30 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243630 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > Web browsers support the officially registered URI scheme 'about' > to reveal internal state and built-in functions: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/About_URI_scheme > > There is one 'about' URI, namely 'about:protocols' > already implemented in Emacs in lisp/url/url-about.el > Then why not to support more 'about' URIs like: > > about:memory - with data returned from 'garbage-collect' > about:processes > about:timers > about:buffers > etc. Web browsers support this sort of thing because that's a nice ad-hoc way to display data that you don't want to have in the menus. I don't see why Emacs should emulate that odd approach to hiding information, especially since Emacs already has commands to display all this data in a sensible manner. Like I said, `M-x list-timers' will always be better (for the users) than dumping some data into HTML and letting shr render it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no