From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch for emacs/basic.texi Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87zh5q8b70.fsf@igel.home> References: <87h7rymedg.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13278"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , Thibaut Verron , emacs-devel To: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 08:53:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIRK6-0003MA-Ve for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIRK6-0001bM-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIRJc-0001C6-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:53:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]:52865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIRJa-0002KX-Cm; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:53:16 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BrrQX4vqWz1rxcC; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BrrQX4C11z1qv2s; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EDVOsDpoSB7Z; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: DcUSHvCtAyg8zkGFrH8AacqzGSqEvI/lb0AEFjPgBI24Emb533z6fFQfLEBIMwOo Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-166-162.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.166.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C5972C1E4A; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:53:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: There's a little picture of ED MCMAHON doing BAD THINGS to JOAN RIVERS in a $200,000 MALIBU BEACH HOUSE!! In-Reply-To: <87h7rymedg.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:20:43 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1; envelope-from=whitebox@nefkom.net; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 02:53:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255830 Archived-At: On Sep 16 2020, Kévin Le Gouguec wrote: > Thibaut Verron writes: > >>> diff --git a/doc/emacs/basic.texi b/doc/emacs/basic.texi >>> index abb385f53d..2372ce972d 100644 >>> --- a/doc/emacs/basic.texi >>> +++ b/doc/emacs/basic.texi >>> @@ -461,6 +461,11 @@ Normally, this command undoes the last change, moving point back to >>> where it was before the change. The undo command applies only to >>> changes in the buffer; you can't use it to undo cursor motion. >>> >>> + On a graphics terminal, the easiest way to invoke @code{undo} is >>> +with @kbd{C-/}; that doesn't need the shift key. On a text terminal, >>> +@kbd{C-/} does not exist, but usually you can type @kbd{C-_} without >>> +the shift key and it will work anyway. >>> + >> >> Does this only make sense with a qwerty keyboard? > > This advice probably isn't universal, indeed. E.g. with AZERTY > keyboards, one needs to hit shift to get a slash, while no shift key is > needed for underscores. Therefore I always undo with C-_. And on a qwertz keyboard neither C-/ nor C-_ work without shift. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."