From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package proposal: org-translate Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:24:57 -0700 Message-ID: <87zh5lihna.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87sgbht2wm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a6xlkb17.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16851"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 23:26:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJkN4-0004EI-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:26:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJkN3-0006Yo-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:26:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJkLy-0005cJ-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:38978 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJkLx-0002Lp-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6F2CFA204; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 21:24:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1600550699; bh=uEaNP9YUe6tXW2AfFRAUCVjlxNFR5OWNonzROvC+ltE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=RDy4dr83lYL4W0RJtySOx1YXSavUmO107GndICeNDBcdySjy1+ltStV+iT07IG5C8 egRpGEYQvBLi85E/DL1Y6SOau/l2QdHCgLEdu8yQbPwqGwXLLzSTsc+Nf1t6tS2tRw HRDvO7B36pWTdcQDEGqC1Hj2rC9XdWXrm2mobJmY= In-Reply-To: <87a6xlkb17.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:04:52 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/19 17:24:55 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256220 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> I've added version 0 of a package called org-translate to ELPA, and I'm >>> proposing it for release. It's a translation environment based on Org. >>> It's not quite a full-on CAT tool, but I suppose has the potential to >>> get there. I'm posting the Commentary section from the library below. >>> Comments/suggestions/complaints very welcome! >> >> I am happy to hear a package like this is in the works, as I do and have >> done a lot of translating in Emacs. >> >> I realize this is just a first draft, but I'll just add my thoughts >> from trying the package. > > Thank you very much for testing! Okay, I think I've addressed all your concerns, along with some other improvements. Hope you're still interested in test-running this! I'm also not very happy about the keybindings, all of which start with "C-M-". I started with "C-M-f" and "C-M-b" for moving by segments (I considered setting `ogt-forward-segment' to the local `forward-sexp-function' and leaving it at that), and I think just went on from there to eat up more "C-M-" bindings. Org leaves so little left on the keyboard!