From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:23:06 +0000 Message-ID: <87zh1gircl.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87pn2dq3xv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ft39hnk1.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7nppzjy.fsf@russet.org.uk> <838s90hhb6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10440"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 19:24:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfNu-0002bZ-1I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:24:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50616 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfNt-0003MU-4f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:24:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfMt-0002nc-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:23:11 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:38262) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfMr-00059q-Vo; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:23:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nyvujdF/GPYX8jo3loZ3D4W2zLU98rT26eeX27A07cs=; b=v+eayUP/OqcOybXtDRvwsVsU4 KGa7GHj7EYGnLP0HUwP6YWXUk/9Tk7u60rGR1E8Axj7zl/vygPpRlOeolwnTsbD4KP1MuEtSQQUCt La9qya1uXRTIqv5Er5pgmq+MqWP5Hgi+WD9mOnYZ/gBzPyM+LeGk4FZwM1sRh7ym566A5iHJdzGI6 7k0n2j4e+AVLdk9ajmyIuaXRol+N5DyZd2P2W2H49iFVOapLZ2MQLAuQsdTxwUGvcIyiBoVgAfw5q +Pzi8SUpMBjltccFBC7UyUeD0gAaiYRMdS6UdZTYF1U2DLh2z5g8kiD85h1aftimpd/sAoBJH+c8a GiGuD8iVA==; Original-Received: from cpc142648-benw12-2-0-cust627.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.10.74.116]:57100 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kyfMp-0007Ub-QK; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:23:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: <838s90hhb6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:45:17 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.129.138.110; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262871 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> 4) Currently, native-comp is an "--with-nativecomp" option even on the >> >> native-comp branch. It is likely to be merged this way to master? >> > >> > Yes, I think so. >> >> Are you worried about stability or newness? I guess it will become the >> default at some point. It seems to have few disadvantages, other than >> hammering the CPU at bit at initial start up. > > Usually, such radical features start as optional, but maybe we will > decide otherwise. > > Why does it matter? I'd like to keep the Windows package using the default options as far as possible, mostly because I am lazy and because it means that the windows package updates when ever the defaults do. Currently, we have --without-dbus --without-compress-install The latter is so the documentation works without gzip. The latter is because we don't normally have dbus available. I am not sure why either of these needed (i.e. why they are not the default on windows). Adding --with-nativecomp isn't massively problematic, but would need removing when and if it becomes default. Not a big problem, the less difference between the windows package and the defaults, the happier I would be. Phil