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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: qhong@alum.mit.edu, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>,
	Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Collaborative editing.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:36:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgtdla4v.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210819141828.ahdhf6xllaqjtqti@Ergus> (Ergus's message of "Thu,  19 Aug 2021 16:18:28 +0200")

Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 09:33:28AM +0000, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>>Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>> Could we try to add crdt to Elpa? Is the author somehow opposed to do the paperwork or so?
>>
>>The package still seems to be on version 0.0.0, and the HACKING[0] file
>>indicates that a few intended items are not implemented yet. It might
>
>>make sense to push for a preliminary version to be published as to
>>provide a basic collaborative environment available on ELPA (or NonGNU
>>ELPA if necessary), and then later work on full-compatibility.
>
> This is the point. When some users know about the package searching in
> the packages-list; maybe they will want to collaborate or report issues,
> so it won't becomes a single man effort. IMHO a package doesn't really
> exist until it is in Elpa or at least Melpa.

I agree, though in this case there is also the issue of having a package
that is hard to debug and test on your own, because the real bugs will
probably only pop up in hard to replicate configurations
(transcontinental-collaboration, obscure network configurations, etc.)

> Otherwise in a couple of years there will be someone starting again
> another similar effort from scratch.

I'd be intersted to see what Qiantan has to say about all of this. It
seems like he changed his email address according to the last commit in
the repository, so I update the CC'ed address in this thread too in case
he is missing out on the conversation.

>>
>>[0] https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el/-/raw/master/HACKING.org
>>
>>> On August 15, 2021 7:46:43 AM GMT+02:00, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>>>>* Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com> [2021-08-13 02:44]:
>>>>> I know there have been some experiments with collaborative editing modes in
>>>>> the past that were written purely in Elisp but none seem to be currently
>>>>> maintained and I'm not sure if any were actually very good to begin with.
>>>>
>>>>CRDT works just fine and is well maintained, you can contact author
>>>>Qiantan Hong <qhong@mit.edu> at any time you wish.
>>>>
>>>>Do:
>>>>
>>>>$ git clone https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el.git
>>>>
>>>>Let me know if you need any help or assistance to start with
>>>>collaborative editing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jean
>>>>
>>>>Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
>>>>https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>>>>
>>>>In support of Richard M. Stallman
>>>>https://stallmansupport.org/
>>>>
>>
>> -- 	Philip Kaludercic
>

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-19 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 23:43 Collaborative editing Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-13  5:32 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-13  6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01  6:32   ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-09-01 11:56     ` Search for message-id (was: Collaborative editing.) Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-15  5:46 ` Collaborative editing Jean Louis
2021-08-15 11:24   ` Ergus
2021-08-19  9:32     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-19  9:33     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-19 14:18       ` Ergus
2021-08-19 14:38         ` dick
2021-08-19 15:19         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-19 15:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 15:36         ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2021-08-28  8:41           ` Qiantan Hong
2021-08-28 11:40             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-28 11:53               ` Qiantan Hong
2021-08-28 12:14                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-28  9:17           ` Qiantan Hong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-30  7:17 What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Van Ly
2020-05-31  7:10 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-31 10:01   ` Van Ly
2020-05-31 12:49     ` excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-06-01  9:11       ` Bastien
2020-06-01 15:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-01 23:32           ` Bastien
2020-06-01 23:50             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-06  9:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06  9:59                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-06-06 10:18                   ` tomas
2020-06-07  3:36                     ` collaborative editing Richard Stallman
2020-06-07  9:28                       ` tomas

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