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[78.107.221.113]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bn16sm2265974ljb.74.2021.08.31.11.53.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 31 Aug 2021 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora=22's?= message of "Tue, 31 Aug 2021 17:03:10 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::233; envelope-from=andremegafone@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x233.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273617 Archived-At: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > [...] but in fact I believe that the "slow", unfamiliar, peculiar, > old-school whatever-you-want-to-call-them methods used in Emacs > development may in fact be "aces up our sleeve", not just a means to > appease those that have been using them for a number of years. I couldn't agree more. There are historical (and technical) reasons for the Emacs development being the way it is. From my point of view, the point of view of an enthusiast and absolute beginner, I've matured respect and appreciation for the modus operandi of this community. I acknowledge that "easy" options are often illusions. I don't think Emacs cultivates "elitism". But it does require proficiency, which is only sensible. If getting more people on board entails lowering the bar, then Emacs would be subscribing to "worse is better". Emacs doesn't stand for that, and it's not on a race. -- Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"