From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 09:48:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87zgr487cj.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <834k9km5no.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38786"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 09:49:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md6M0-0009rn-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 09:49:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50396 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md6Lz-0006zH-FV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md6L1-0006HC-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:33898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md6Ky-0007ts-Qz; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:48:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N8Oa+QJQbaqC9R3sV/CAq6pP4zWiUBQV49Yd1IFAeMQ=; b=ZjWYNw9JW7uDWiQfrPX2EDRugU 13LdoaPDPKmhoo6BxDsK5G2HuYO3iITzfE9soT9odkRT8gVWZl3BGM2usr8tBgL1v91qxvlwU45Hn Qu/JF9nymn3SjOE/pnZ2VVmIAox1HIhl7TY3wucxzNfM6MUL4Jwvekih0votzySMs+IE=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md6Kq-0005f3-HP; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 09:48:31 +0200 X-Now-Playing: case-lang-veirs's _case-lang-veirs_: "I Want To Be Here" In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:09 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277426 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > If we are going to relegate the old syntax to "permanently deprecated" > as I recommend, we can design a new syntax, whichever syntax we like. > It doesn't have to use the function `kbd'. The syntax that `kbd' understands is the one that we're using to display keystrokes in help texts and manuals, so inventing another syntax for defining keys doesn't seem productive. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no