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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	 Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:29:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgr1aga5.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27b660e5a897f955064e@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:48:02 +0000")

Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> writes:

> Emacs 29 + 2*N: allow only the kbd syntax, display an error otherwise.

> Sure, this could break some configurations and some old code

Almost all my code uses the old syntax.  And I'm sure a lot of other
code too, not necessarily old.

It might be ugly, but there's no harm in leaving it there, and a great
deal of harm in removing it.

As for the comparisons with xref and cl-lib, they're not accurate at
all.  Code using old cl will still work thanks to the compatibility
shims, and almost nobody uses xref anyway.

Just my two cents.  Thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22  3:29 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] ` <20211004081726.AB24621048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-10-04  8:56   ` master 192f935 1/3: Add 'define-keymap' and 'defvar-keymap' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04  9:42     ` Adam Porter
2021-10-04 10:13       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-10  7:40         ` Madhu
2021-10-19 18:02         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-19 18:18           ` Change indentation of keyword lists/arrays Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 16:39             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-20 19:02               ` Tassilo Horn
2021-10-21  3:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  3:59                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-04 13:06   ` master 192f935 1/3: Add 'define-keymap' and 'defvar-keymap' Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 13:09     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 13:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 13:44         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 14:34           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 16:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-05  6:31             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] ` <20211004081727.4F24921048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-10-12 12:47   ` master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 13:00     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 13:22         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 14:24           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 20:22             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 20:32               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 21:34                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 23:23                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 23:40                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13  3:18                     ` Moving kbd to subr.el Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 11:10                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 12:42                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 14:26                           ` T.V Raman
2021-10-13 15:01                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 15:03                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 16:01                                 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-13 15:11                               ` T.V Raman
2021-10-13 12:50                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 13:33                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 22:28                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 22:45                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 22:54                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14  7:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 11:50                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 11:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 12:06                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:28                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 20:55                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 21:04                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 21:13                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15  2:07                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 10:28                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 11:05                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15 11:10                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15 11:34                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-15 12:31                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 12:39                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 13:32                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-15 14:04                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 14:44                                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 16:05                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-15 16:31                                                           ` T.V Raman
2021-10-15 11:26                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-16 13:48                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-16 14:33                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-16 15:55                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-17 18:54                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-17 19:32                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-17 19:39                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-17 19:42                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-17 19:58                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 11:41                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-18 11:52                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:01                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-18 13:07                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 12:40                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-20  6:47                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20  7:48                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 13:18                                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21  2:52                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  3:36                                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21  3:39                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  4:07                                                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21  4:37                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  4:58                                                                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-20 14:21                                                                 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-21  2:53                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 14:19                                                                     ` T.V Raman
2021-10-20 18:51                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-21  2:53                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 13:40                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-22 14:20                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 14:57                                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-22 15:02                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 15:06                                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-22 15:10                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 18:16                                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-22 18:18                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-23 23:29                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-24  6:10                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26  3:01                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-24 13:24                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 18:10                                                                                         ` Corwin Brust
2021-10-24 18:42                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 16:06                                                                                             ` Corwin Brust
2021-10-25 16:10                                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-27 14:41                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-28 12:19                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-28 12:25                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30  6:53                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-30 12:36                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31  2:39                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-31 14:57                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02  3:54                                                                                                     ` New key binding syntax Richard Stallman
2021-11-02 11:08                                                                                                       ` John Yates
2021-11-04  2:36                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-04  9:37                                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-11-04 17:09                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 22:46                                                                                                               ` John Yates
2021-11-04 22:48                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 22:53                                                                                                                   ` John Yates
2021-11-05  2:25                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-05 12:21                                                                                                                       ` John Yates
2021-11-05 13:45                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06 13:52                                                                                                                           ` John Yates
2021-11-05  3:57                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-05  5:41                                                                                                                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-06  3:20                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-02 12:10                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-04  2:36                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-02 16:22                                                                                                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-04  2:33                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-04  8:53                                                                                                           ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05  6:08                                                                                                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-05  8:56                                                                                                               ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05  9:13                                                                                                                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-05 10:03                                                                                                                   ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-05 11:04                                                                                                                     ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-05 12:02                                                                                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-06  3:20                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-05  5:32                                                                                                           ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-07  4:25                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-07  4:48                                                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2021-11-08 23:50                                                                                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-10  4:35                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-10 14:53                                                                                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-10 17:24                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2021-11-13  4:10                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-13 18:47                                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2021-11-16  4:05                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-16  6:21                                                                                                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18  3:52                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-18  5:01                                                                                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 14:10                                                                                                                         ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18 14:59                                                                                                                           ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 15:22                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 15:39                                                                                                                               ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 16:50                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 15:32                                                                                                                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18 16:20                                                                                                                               ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 16:53                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 21:13                                                                                                                                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18 11:05                                                                                                                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18 11:31                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-19  4:44                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-19  6:05                                                                                                                           ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-19  6:53                                                                                                                             ` Po Lu
2021-11-19  7:40                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-19 11:33                                                                                                                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-19 12:43                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-19 12:48                                                                                                                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-16 16:25                                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-11-10 17:24                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-10-17 19:55                                                     ` Moving kbd to subr.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-17 21:20                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18  6:02                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 12:46                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:15                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 13:50                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 15:50                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 16:03                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:53                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 13:59                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 14:44                                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-18 15:34                                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 15:53                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-10-18 15:53                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 15:58                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 16:33                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 20:40                                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 22:26                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19  2:31                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19  2:30                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19  7:02                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-19  7:48                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 10:46                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-19 13:08                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 14:48                                                                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-19 17:10                                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 17:51                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-19 18:06                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-10-20 22:34                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20 22:34                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-22  3:29                                                                           ` Po Lu [this message]
2021-10-19 12:34                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19 13:38                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 13:57                                                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:07                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 14:13                                                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:16                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 14:25                                                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:31                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 15:03                                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-19 14:56                                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-19 14:45                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19 15:09                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 19:07                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 19:00                                                                                     ` Howard Melman
2021-10-19 20:53                                                                                     ` T.V Raman
2021-10-19 20:59                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 21:50                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-20 22:37                                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-21  2:54                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20  1:54                                                                                         ` T.V Raman
2021-10-19 14:00                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-19 14:03                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 16:05                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 17:43                                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 18:54                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-25 14:22                                                                             ` Making a key undefined again Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 14:30                                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-25 14:37                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 17:31                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-25 17:48                                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-25 22:49                                                                                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 22:59                                                                                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 23:10                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-25 23:27                                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-26 16:11                                                                                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-26 19:33                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 16:01                                                                 ` Moving kbd to subr.el Juri Linkov
2021-10-18 16:27                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19  3:08                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18  1:41                                                       ` T.V Raman
2021-10-18 11:40                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  7:27                         ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 11:33                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 11:53                             ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 12:08                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:24                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 13:10                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 13:55                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-14 14:05                                       ` dick
2021-10-14 14:15                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-14 14:31                                           ` dick
2021-10-14 14:33                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 14:36                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 12:36                     ` Representing key sequences (was: master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap) Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 13:17                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 16:28                         ` Representing key sequences Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 23:48                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:12                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:40                         ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-13  8:54               ` master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 11:15                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:25                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 12:59                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 13:05                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 13:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 14:28                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 14:30                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:52                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 15:32                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 15:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 16:07                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 19:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 21:53                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 22:55                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14  7:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  6:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  7:41                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 12:07                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 12:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:27                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 12:30                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:58                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:28                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:31                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:36                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:41                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:42                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:53                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:59                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 14:14                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 19:07                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 19:13                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 19:32                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 20:01                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-14 20:17                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 20:35                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:43                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:58                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 21:02                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 21:10                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 21:58                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-16 17:07                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 20:59                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-14 21:11                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 19:31                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 19:54                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 19:59                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 22:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13 22:37             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12 19:28           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-12 20:10             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 14:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 22:36       ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-14  7:25         ` Eli Zaretskii

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