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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284357 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >> In general, I think the visual appearance of tab-bar and tab-line >> buttons needs a lot of love and care; what we have now simply looks >> badly, IMNSHO. We've basically copied the code that displays the tool >> bar, but without the attention that was at the time given to the >> visual appearance of the (native tool-bar buttons. The result is that >> the tool-bar buttons look much prettier than the tab bar and the tab >> lines. Compare our tab bar with that of any of the Web browsers out >> there, and you will see what I mean. there's no good reason why our >> tabs couldn't look as pretty as those of the browser, the only problem >> is that it involves coding in C, not Lisp. I still hope someone with >> experience in graphics programming will do that. > Everyone with experience in graphics programming is welcome. So basically what people want is to clone the appearance of, say, Mozilla Firefox's tabs? That should be doable.