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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287882 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > I'm still unsure which is better. Maybe M- should not be different > from M-? One of them navigates by lines, and another by screenfuls. > But M- inserts the current completion to the minibuffer, > whereas M- does not. Or maybe M- should insert the > completion as well. Having M- insert the completion, too, would be sorta more consistent. But it doesn't feel natural. Playing around a bit with the current key bindings you have now, the actions feel quite natural to me. >>> 2) The M-/M- is not intuitive when completions are not in >>> one-column format, and the M-/M- cannot be used because >>> they are already taken.. >> >> I agree with that -- I expected M- to work on the visually >> displayed completions, not the logical order. > > Unfortunately, M-/M- can't be used for visual navigation > from the minibuffer. Yes, that's a problem. And we can't rebind M-/ there in general, because it'd be disruptive. Rebinding them after M- might be an option? But... Probably not. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no