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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292710 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:06:25 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:23:47 +0200 >>=20 >> >>>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:16:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >>=20 >> >> I didn=CA=BCt pick up on this earlier. What do you mean by "easier >> >> customization of char-fold.el"? I thought the various include/exc= lude >> >> vars were all customizable already? >>=20 Eli> Yes, but the values are not very friendly for interactive Eli> customizations, IMNSHO. >>=20 >> They=CA=BCre fundamentally mappings from a base char to a set of >> 'equivalent' chars. You can use 'C-x 8 RET' to enter any of them, and >> you can delete the entries for a base char easily, so I guess I=CA= =BCm >> missing the difficulty (but then UX is always very personal). Eli> Well, one question that it would be nice to be able to ask Emacs is Eli> "show me all the characters that resemble CH", so that users could Eli> decide what to add to the existing set. But the characters that resemble CH are already in the char-fold-table by default. And "chars that look like CH but aren=CA=BCt in the char-fold-table" is something that a human can determine, but I=CA=BCm all out of ideas on how to do it in elisp. Eli> Another potential issue is how does one easily delete a character = from Eli> the list, when what is known is its name or codepoint? Using Isea= rch Eli> with \N{...} or "C-x 8 RET" is quite advanced. That sounds like we need a custom custom widget. I took a quick look, but I didn=CA=BCt see an obvious way to have a widget which could display its value(s) in several different formats. Robert --=20