From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:06:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87zgfxn6lt.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22984"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 21 14:07:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPjk2-0005ml-Or for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:07:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPjk1-0007Jv-KQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 08:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPjj2-00063w-Qu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 08:06:44 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:59540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPjj1-00050p-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 08:06:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=h3ZJf7tpd8dBCPc5kFhpcM0GBl7uqa9W4GuhKctwd/c=; b=EAQY9qTeeNwQZrR3hNsHksvz9W LS9a7JRJPYTJTLNTF0r+OPmMvT1PXM/bifJzchcWcVjjJq6tikfn4gGgYPXD7E/yzfN4Biwqpj7ma SQBRnYuDWCDWUySKMY8QN6VRMf+Qqjedo8NdsZotfGubBGo+BWyYYUM9slDLm4Qjtm/s=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPjiw-0001fW-JU; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:06:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2022 13:49:22 +0200") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUTBgZdJiewdjL/ //8rHmheAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YIFQslEKJvkTEAAAFVSURBVCjPRZK9asMwEMdP QRJtJhtkSDR1KIXmKRSIO0uQ85Apgw2tn8KBdk+XQDt1cEqtp+xJiu0bJP38v5PuwwA3yzLLQeXo RF4i2R6y3LnC4bZ0ARytOZZREYjKUsgeBQfpYbalNzM0l36GdWVnmGOyCRQAeYhrhFXGOtqOSVEL WlkEUSt1C2XA/kawDMTQ2vRZMSO875KiopJgT8CGTUrRbkoDj+0tX41bWuj+kJPKjThJyiy9Y14+ 4Dkp9wCf71wDjyXt2NlybVYBnk5m9QBLeI31dXYtrPaxfrkDLezG/4QrqgYOsjtQm5YAv0fQA6eG hpcuNWvPd3QOl/t+4Tv+lnJre0nVJGBVL51hEYRtagDD6uRWUC9MyoyA5HEUBRoozHiuzKQgfnfF BJW/tjjOh2wox5l6f/3C5KaDYLFmoVURwg9hqOshpKd9cpvmLXE+/wPSrVmCZ8bLHQAAACV0RVh0 ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wOC0yMVQxMTozNzoxNSswMDowMPQM2RMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9k aWZ5ADIwMjItMDgtMjFUMTE6Mzc6MTUrMDA6MDCFUWGvAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Cirkus Modern's =?utf-8?Q?=5FTr=C3=B8st=5F=3A?= "Bm. samliv (Det er =?utf-8?Q?p=C3=A5?= tide =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A5?= drikke seg full)" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293692 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Anyway, I'm all in favour of defaulting to a no-toolkit build (across > all systems (But note that our decisions here will probably not matter one whit to most of our users -- Ubuntu/Debian will almost certainly continue to distribute Emacs with a gtk toolkit.)