From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Browning Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:51:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87zgeekqjv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <837d1i16yk.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7uum6xa.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83pmfayspn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 20:52:53 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of457-0005Gx-8W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:52:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39422 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of456-000303-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of43p-0001BS-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:51:33 -0400 Original-Received: from defaultvalue.org ([45.33.119.55]:37472) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of43o-0000vu-3v; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:51:33 -0400 Original-Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: rlb@defaultvalue.org) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C42EB20174; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A9E614E081; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:51:00 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <83pmfayspn.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.33.119.55; envelope-from=rlb@defaultvalue.org; helo=defaultvalue.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296685 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Whether the duplication is significant can only be decided based on > actual usage figures. It is incorrect to assess this based on the > *.elc files, since those are independent of almost everything. > There's high probability of wrong decisions based on that analogy. > There are many factors that affect compatibility of *.eln files to > Emacs binaries; for example, it's enough to add or remove a primitive, > and you will need a whol;e new set of *.eln files. Thus, it is quite > possible that duplication will be smaller and OTOH waste of disk space > due to unnecessarily compiled *.eln files will be higher than you > envision. Only practice will show the real situation. I think I've probably made this clear elsewhere, but in case not, that wouldn't be the case for Debian specifically. There could/would only be *one* eln tree for the whole system with the current packaging. And that tree would be rebuilt when appropriate, in dependency order (*if* we end up deciding to pursuse this). -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org GPG as of 2011-07-10 E6A9 DA3C C9FD 1FF8 C676 D2C4 C0F0 39E9 ED1B 597A GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4