From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Yuan Fu" <casouri@gmail.com>,
"Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
"Theodor Thornhill" <theo@thornhill.no>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
jostein@kjonigsen.net
Subject: Re: Standardized access to a REPL
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:03:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgcnkmvq.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwn7r82w3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2022 09:07:58 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>>> `compiled-prog-mode' that has generic commands for building program,
>>>> `interpreted-prog-mode' that has generic commands for REPL
> [...]
>> (define-prog-mode foo
>> :type 'compiled
>
> <soapbox>
> Let me point out that the idea that some languages are compiled and
> others are interpreted is bogus. This is a property of a language's
> *implementation* and not of the language per se.
> And of course, here we don't even really care about this facet of the
> implementation: you're using those terms as a proxy for whether we use
> a REPL or a batch-compiler.
> </soapbox>
>
> Many languages have both REPLs and batch compilers (like, say ELisp), so
> a major mode needs to be able to offer access to both functionalities at
> the same time.
Good point, that also indicates that that using `derive-major-mode' is
not the right approach, because (AFAIK) major modes span a tree, not a
DAG.
Perhaps it would be better to extend prog-mode and bind keys in the
default map that call methods with the current major mode. These can
then either implement the methods or indicate that the feature
(evaluating in a REPL when using C) is not supported.
> Regarding the original suggestion to provide a uniform access to a REPL,
> I started on this a long time ago, but never got it "finished" :-(
> I attached what I still have of that effort.
Sounds interesting, I'll take a look at it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-19 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-16 20:45 Tree-sitter and major mode inheritance Yuan Fu
2022-11-18 21:54 ` Suggesting that feature/tree-sitter be merged (was Re: Tree-sitter and major mode inheritance) Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-11-18 22:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-18 22:58 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-18 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 7:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 14:07 ` Standardized access to a REPL (was: Suggesting that feature/tree-sitter be merged) Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 15:03 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2022-11-19 16:07 ` Standardized access to a REPL Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 16:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 22:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-20 9:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 8:29 ` Suggesting that feature/tree-sitter be merged (was Re: Tree-sitter and major mode inheritance) Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 10:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 11:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 12:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-19 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 21:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-18 22:52 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-19 5:21 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-11-19 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 18:46 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-11-19 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 18:59 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-11-19 7:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-19 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 11:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-19 11:49 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-11-19 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 9:41 ` Tree-sitter and major mode inheritance Yuan Fu
2022-11-19 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 10:29 ` Po Lu
2022-11-19 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 17:17 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-19 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 21:45 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-20 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 0:38 ` Po Lu
2022-11-19 21:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 21:49 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-19 22:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 22:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 23:36 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-19 23:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 13:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 15:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 9:19 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-20 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 22:57 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-20 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 17:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 12:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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