From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 08:15:24 +0800 Message-ID: <87zg6jab1f.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87bkj1ar9n.fsf@yahoo.com> <7e6334ce-c9a3-2c58-d263-fa962f0c2f7d@web.de> <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="703"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 05 02:16:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1puj7M-000Aa1-Oj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 02:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1puj6n-00050j-T6; Thu, 04 May 2023 20:15:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1puj6m-00050X-7Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 20:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic311-25.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.206]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1puj6k-0002kp-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 20:15:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1683245731; bh=XfW2qOaASI6+MWza3aQ/k0d4hQkrTCzcBtwzSRdiAJI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=YGx3M+dnvySaGk6h34lZacypyvR6ue88fwjWjYde1kKUlBEZeqdvvMg5McvATmDFiEJ5YU10UuE38KIfRqcTRLpydROyhTLHSM9uGPfwfUt4H4Q73FZ1ROgceKqC72Xo96bJ/0uOeae3aLxwcst/q6ykV5R+Uh9G2tV9VI2RskQJa8p0XK0BPhNYYmd9izwxsG2iDSsIdPitcuixXlDAHIMtuadSHPIvnkKz5N8X8ejUB6EnBVQ3I2akARbQNiZX1GpyA81yC5pTuWQb0HEfDyZTCW7n0Nnnk12a2DazR4CSayylgn2b68HS9DR2usEff0/2R6LkZzlEO28jM2Nmgw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1683245731; bh=yG8IJYVzBFdfpFyXzoBbTJPiWMHyNPn8T3CUL9dGAg1=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=PkkjRvjjY1oBOQbs+pQXvRXXcbJICuzSUwpCSd9LZeOcL7vzmvf9xXUm8npTEszeVOoI65XyigjPq/8BqbIlF3qmGsDrYMlWf/pN5uVNviR6CTqlngR2i119JLcRF9HKQOMxg6v2IcmhX6aLcQQNeS+GV4FNzMP7D2SsZs5fNdjcxYG8QvAzoJgMrOPkBt1BeypGvUbt4QS0r2LVBml9HWmYGT8Fnt+X3X1r+S5JSEixoXYyfoMcDTAC79uqNGoajPBGsXhO/8Avp26UStPHaAF2yJEbvO5oCLuzFyiRRSoDOKXAcieYhYB4hjzrFigYpPm4q0ViL9sOctUhGWMjqw== X-YMail-OSG: xloNQRQVM1m7npyfxlk59zj7LpxtL9fN0SS.fmkgTcNolDlfwElL2OgUQVfQUac mgLZqLKy.1tph552lO5qHk8EApplrGgNpn13tOM1dHkUdGFTZ9ZfwbQiBwIRxh8IC657Mkzsx2x_ QvcvwyzZUZH3pCft1nIhUj5BAqZxYAyb045mFMrcwrpFZpBbOBHLTGchcg2VhjexKQGfVSX7ytPS C.LGSQQG.ewOVwwj1YR3ZAnt0iE7zsonIn2XHkkgt921hX0Bv3yj94.vRS08C93KnPGeJXGhzYqx BX6LORXk4ZNt3f_8fhqSJC1mzbxd8YBxv8bi4JOMDDffWTizYeK1DApcSkrlRFRIpj62CZ3GXDbg wAjqLZpvsIcT4AiDMRFlzerT2Q6vIwifkKhR8fyLtaXoGTPAUCChqkEgIDerm2pEzbgl5TIqTpoi _Q80eyj0BMysm6F1SfCcgeumY9WyYDvKwSddXhNtTnhuhL_I_BTYgpyyWo8D6R41FiJJ.rJRO7BK 2XAJSza1Hjchb5fNj3.qdRljvFatG5dYXtWbPM_LFlKXS19D1MRbb72Dg2LMuqBbNG8brl7idSg. 36PDJg3J1IyBPVXo1gX7A.98QyV.ZYlldf5.rJmj7Ei5L96a4xaPe42obJdTNcUiGuB7JGfUutbB yrLuMeAKPcdawOwY5.9DNkCiW83nM7kzGVvdmHbG1lpZ5I.J_4Gv3sZJEq8IgFsUhKRmmzJMClDn 8_Dv6_0MzHtx6y1px7_NEZiXMk6MjZM4Ty5VCRb1y9Oy5QG6ywdiZVI4.lKoTYZUo4uy7t8.3QZL FVtgRSStw1pPacA0rkPgdzysyTXjngevDEX0HCw6cV X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: 48818dbf-374c-4494-93b5-ec98e6d6fed9 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 5 May 2023 00:15:31 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-6d6fb994f6-jx956 (Yahoo Inc. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305841 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"? Because ``minimization'' is a form of iconification. > IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the > problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions > were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent. ``minimize'' is not modern terminology. It is simply terminology used by proprietary window systems.