From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [GNU ELPA] New package: Urgrep Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 13:23:18 +0000 Message-ID: <87zg61n589.fsf@posteo.net> References: <871qjpuc4s.fsf@posteo.net> <363bc371-3d9f-1934-7ee2-0c46263f3849@gmail.com> <87bkishfjb.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttwk2iwf.fsf@posteo.net> <4b8c5718-9ee6-2f6b-aa73-535948eb593e@gmail.com> <87wn18rdpv.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27017"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 18 15:24:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pzdc6-0006e2-9l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 15:24:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzdbJ-0000wM-5Y; Thu, 18 May 2023 09:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzdbH-0000vn-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 09:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzdbF-0004vH-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 09:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A3AB24002A for ; Thu, 18 May 2023 15:23:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1684416199; bh=nWwFOn/UmipfVeiLG2Va3f30EEIR6d5AwTwwKqsVS04=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=M1LgQZT6K9Xr0CcuV1MqidTiBvJpfoKBKQOlHk7v9Gg8SN3cgXnSmtN09N444+vIp KmmE6f+ntmP8qldX8qz9rGNUQuvqsvwPiBC1he99TZMdsw8sDOsQ73G9qzkOgw3gvm awgEyG//z2diz1vgOWaIFrUft9/bMYGy3d2K3UF6E7Sy+Tr5nSuD/P9UzjhR6EqvN/ Dc8BfpQOqo9zj0jaafY8Ypr5mlLKSDsoIhbvvk4qeADn31qDB+ytNvpa/q+iyaThst ZnFpHNzlW+T/4y0MMIMwWEa+BXH9tpG4JNl0fUHqDjHOfx33CIbG+9QhMBaGubK5nI hqk/LFLRVnlfg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4QMVzB4prfz6tws; Thu, 18 May 2023 15:23:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 17 May 2023 18:27:58 -0400") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306174 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Since this is just an brief, internal comment in elpa-admin.el, I > > wouldn't be that concerned. I believe it is justified to assume that > > everyone working on the script knows what this means. > > It is not unusual for people who don't kow the internals of a program > to read its code to learn to understand it. So how about changing > those lines to make that learning easier? Please give future > maintainers a break! I started working on ELPA about two years ago, and comments like these were never an issue. Of course in this individual case it can be changed, but generally speaking I would consider the ability to understand what a comment like this means a pre-requisite for being able to hack on a file like elpa-admin.el, as it "proves" familiarity with Elisp packaging and conventions around Emacs packages. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding you, what exactly do you find confusing about comments like these in general? -- Philip Kaludercic