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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310510 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: > Daniel Mendler writes: > >> ... Providing a public API won't work >> since Compat is not included in Emacs itself. A design criterion of >> Compat is also to keep the public API surface as small as possible. > > Maybe it is the time to consider including the compat.el API into Emacs? > We are getting a number of :core packages published on ELPA and > naturally having to solve various compatibility problems. I am a bit behind wrt Compat development. Are we talking about adding the `compat-call, etc. macros to the core? So basically just a (defmacro compat-call (&rest args) args) that would be overriden by compat's compat-call, as soon as that is loaded