From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ortmann@isl.net: asymmetries and contradictions in shell navigation using C-a and C-e on a prompt line]
Date: 19 Mar 2002 09:02:27 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y9gp8lws.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5x8z8pak2s.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk>
no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> I don't understand. How does emacs know when it's currently in an important
> case...
What are you talking about? I mean _I've_ thought about how things
work, and considered the important cases when the current mechanism is
confusing in this way, and decided that this is a good solution.
> I said 'indicates' -- as the major example of using this feature doesn't
> work, and need to be reworked using more machinery (rather than less).
Of course it works. The reason why it's a bit wierd is because the
input field is at the of the buffer, and _everything_ involving
text properties works a bit oddly at the end of the buffer. [your
proposed `solution' would have exactly the same problem!]
> Ok, but it sometimes does make sense to navigate inside the prompt.
> C-e -> goto end of prompt (= start of input), another C-e -> go to
> end of input. Isn't that how it's working now?
Yes, but people apparently don't like it (I don't really care). They
want C-e to go to the `end of something', not `the beginning'. Even
though the `background' is a field too by definition, people think of
the input field as being distinguished from the background, and I
suppose emacs ought to respect that.
> I thought you were proposing to change, end-of-line and other
> commands to behave differently if point is "inside" a field.
I'm proposing changing the way the field-restriction functions work
(which are called by anyone that cares about a field) to not act like
it's a field when the field property is nil.
> I referred to that as "messy" (compared to doing it through command
> remapping).
I suspect trying to do it through command remapping would actually be a
lot messier -- because you're only changing things at a surface level,
you have a lot more special cases to worry about.
[and in any case, the current mechanism (1) exists, and (2) works quite well]
-Miles
--
I'd rather be consing.
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[not found] <200201210941.g0L9f9s14343@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-03-18 2:39 ` [ortmann@isl.net: asymmetries and contradictions in shell navigation using C-a and C-e on a prompt line] Miles Bader
2002-03-18 15:17 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-18 15:39 ` Miles Bader
2002-03-18 16:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-19 0:02 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-03-19 9:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-19 9:24 ` Miles Bader
2002-03-19 8:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-18 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-19 0:18 ` Miles Bader
2002-03-20 5:11 ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-20 5:41 ` Miles Bader
2002-03-20 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-20 6:38 ` Miles Bader
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