From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Setting font to Lucida Grande on Mac OS X Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:36:29 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87y8wh2jpu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200309151509.h8FF95Z22652@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87y8wpie1w.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200309170234.h8H2YH706063@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87pthzfvt3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3F68584E.7010900@gnu.org> <200309171655.h8HGtbl08972@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87d6dx82kq.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200309191534.h8JFY4Z25206@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064229001 22894 80.91.224.253 (22 Sep 2003 11:10:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Luc Teirlinck , jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 22 13:09:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A1OZq-0000cH-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:09:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A1Ofc-0001jk-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:15:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A1OEH-00074I-0A for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:47:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A1OAN-0006CY-10 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A1OAK-0006CJ-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:43:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.158.98.109] (helo=tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A1O3W-0005Bc-98; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1A1O3R-0008Hf-00; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:36:29 +0900 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:26:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16550 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16550 >>>>> "rms" == Richard Stallman writes: However, matching is ! implementation-dependent, and often inaccurate, when wildcards match ! dashes in a long name. It works best if you supply all 14 dashes. rms> The first sentence seems to imply that wildcards are so rms> unreliable that you should never use them. It is clearer to rms> say No, it's not. On some platforms, wildcards that match dashes _are_ so inaccurate that you should never use them in production code. Luc gave an example. However, it may be convenient for interactive or one-shot code use, or if it works in an init file. rms> However, matching is implementation-dependent, and can rms> be inaccurate when wildcards match dashes in a long name. rms> For reliable results, supply all 14 dashes and use wildcards rms> only within a field. The second sentence is a distinct improvement (especially as it implies partial matching in a field, which often is useful, such as ...-jisx0208*-0 to catch names which specify the year of the standard), but I recommend that the first sentence be left as is. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.