From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:03:32 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87y8ta7rp7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87ekvahjnr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312121424.hBCEO6V06218@f7.net> <874qw5k973.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87pteppkz9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071717388 14479 80.91.224.253 (18 Dec 2003 03:16:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 18 04:16:24 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AWoeG-0005Le-00 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:16:24 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AWoeF-0007ks-00 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:16:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AWpan-0000EP-T0 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AWpaR-0000BI-22 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AWpZu-0008NE-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.246.52.22] (helo=ns5.tangramltd.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AWpZq-0008Mv-RS; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from 80-235-32-52-dsl.mus.estpak.ee ([80.235.32.52] helo=mail.jurta.org) by ns5.tangramltd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWocK-0001oZ-9W; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:14:24 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:28:46 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.tangramltd.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jurta.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18733 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18733 Richard Stallman writes: > So, what do you think about this patch? It provides three functions > Info-goto, Info-goto-node and Info-goto-anchor that differ only by > their completion lists. I'm still unsure about keybindings to these > functions. Maybe, "g" - for Info-goto-node, "G" - for Info-goto > > Do we really need Info-goto-anchor? We don't need Info-goto-anchor. > Do we really need Info-goto-node, except as an alias > for compatibility? I don't see a need for them. I think Info-goto-node with a completion list without anchors might be useful for users that want to see only node names. For instance, currently Info-goto-node called on the Emacs manual adds anchors useless for users: Coding Systems-Footnote-1 Debugger Operation-Footnote-1 Dissociated Press-Footnote-1 Expressions-Footnote-1 File Names with $ Fontsets-Footnote-1 General Variables-Footnote-1 Language Environments-Footnote-1 Language Environments-Footnote-2 MS-DOS Printing-Footnote-1 MS-DOS and MULE-Footnote-1 MS-DOS and MULE-Footnote-2 Mail Amusements-Footnote-1 Man Page-Footnote-1 Man Page-Footnote-2 Manifesto-Footnote-1 Manifesto-Footnote-2 Manifesto-Footnote-3 Manifesto-Footnote-4 Manifesto-Footnote-5 Menu Mouse Clicks-Footnote-1 Non-ASCII Rebinding-Footnote-1 Scroll Bars-Footnote-1 Several Buffers-Footnote-1 Shell Mode-Footnote-1 TeX Mode-Footnote-1 But since now anchors are very infrequent in Info files they don't cause a problem yet. However, with more widespread use of anchors completion lists of node names will grow significantly. So, I think this discussion should be postponed until Info files have more anchors and thus it will be clear how many real problems anchors cause. -- http://www.jurta.org/emacs/