From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: intern-soft, find-face/get-face, and facep for determining faces' definedness Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:31:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87y8hfuxwc.fsf@ID-87814.user.uni-berlin.de> References: <0whwtx5meng.fsf@rescomp.Stanford.EDU.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87k6t4rd5b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <847aaaf204110123282bb4ddd8@mail.gmail.com> <847aaaf20411020048201a2419@mail.gmail.com> <847aaaf20411020121678a0b5c@mail.gmail.com> <87d5ywpi8v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20041102222006.GC20505@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099733908 4665 80.91.229.6 (6 Nov 2004 09:38:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 09:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Brian Palmer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Sat Nov 06 10:38:15 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135] ident=ident-user) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQN1T-0007hV-00 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:38:15 +0100 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA69Ve4Z015809; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:41 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA69VclP015803 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:38 -0500 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iA69Vc33015802 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:38 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA69Vbge015790 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iA69Vbhu015789 for xemacweb@tux.org; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id iA69VaEl015775 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 04:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 21721 invoked by uid 65534); 6 Nov 2004 09:31:30 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl-084-057-092-174.arcor-ip.net (EHLO hermes.gmx.de) (84.57.92.174) by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2004 10:31:30 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1497658 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20041102222006.GC20505@fencepost> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:20:06 -0500") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) 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Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: domain of epameinondas@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gwyn.tux.org id iA69Ve4a015809 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:16733 gmane.emacs.devel:29472 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29472 Miles Bader writes: > On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:06:56PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> We also have truly anonymous temporary faces, which get >> garbage collected simply by dropping them on the floor, as they never >> get entered into any tables. > > As an aside, I've long wanted to add anonymous faces to Emacs; Don't we have them already? (progn (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "*tmp*")) (insert (propertize "lirum larum" 'face '(face :foreground "blue" :inherit variable-pitch)))) Or am I missing something? Oliver --=20 Oliver Scholz 16 Brumaire an 213 de la R=C3=A9volution Ostendstr. 61 Libert=C3=A9, Egalit=C3=A9, Fraternit=C3=A9! 60314 Frankfurt a. M. =20