From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-trunk-diffs] Changes to emacs/etc/NEWS Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:59:40 -0500 Message-ID: <87y8g8oyry.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <87acsps7qw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102568438 6305 80.91.229.6 (9 Dec 2004 05:00:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 06:00:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CcGPp-0001l4-00 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:00:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CcGZh-0007YT-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CcGZJ-0007X1-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CcGZE-0007WK-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CcGZE-0007Vo-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:10:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CcGOw-0004Br-Cv; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:59:38 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.71.27.115]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041209045937.MCVU1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F2EED7318; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:59:40 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:42:25 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30923 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30923 > I don't find the merged behavior we have right now unclean at all: > The `t' simply means: "default from now on". > That is quite unusual, for Emacs Lisp, and is certainly not what > t should mean. Obviously one can't argue about taste. > , but you'll also lose flexibility since it won't be possible to > specify a default for a subset of the face spec. > How much is that flexibility worth, in practice? > Which cases use it? Well, to me when you replace 1 simple concept with 2 less powerful ones, those two concepts need to significantly simpler in order to make up for the conceptual cost of having 2 concepts rather than just one (and losing a bit of generality at the same time). In the present case I just don't even find any of your two "else" and "default" concepts to be noticeably simpler than mine. But it's your code, Stefan