From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcelo Toledo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bootstrap from scratch [is now appt activation] Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:30:25 -0300 Message-ID: <87y8as7ike.fsf_-_@kali.intranet> References: <200505051718.j45HIrFG002303@emr.cs.iit.edu> <87fyx11pm0.fsf@vera.springies.com> <87vf5xzdbb.fsf@vera.springies.com> <6loebpo2mg.fsf@xpc14.ast.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115383151 6236 80.91.229.2 (6 May 2005 12:39:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 14:39:06 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from mail-relay.eunet.no ([193.71.71.242]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU26R-0007Mc-45 for ged-emacs-devel@gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:38:47 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by mail-relay.eunet.no (8.13.1/8.13.1/GN) with ESMTP id j46Cjaaf019068 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:45:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU2E8-0003w3-IT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU0SM-0002zE-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:53:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU0SL-0002yb-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:53:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU0Cf-00084e-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [200.246.179.113] (helo=hm13.locaweb.com.br) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DU0BY-0000NB-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 11913 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 10:28:26 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (10.1.10.10) by hm13.locaweb.com.br with QMTP; 6 May 2005 10:28:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16149 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 10:30:27 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kali.intranet.marcelotoledo.org) (marcelo@marcelotoledo.org@201.9.95.237) by hm10.locaweb.com.br with SMTP; 6 May 2005 10:30:27 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUREBKVenaCZF94VlBp TEhXPzzH0uJJMS+5w9gzIiKEqtMzAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEgAACxIB0t1+/AAA AAd0SU1FB9MGCwAYJycum7IAAAH+SURBVHjavVO5bttAECUCGMGWOwICtTtL5Si1s4ThLuBRuEwk gfEPCCptwQHBUh3LRWiC2L/NLGNHqyNtCJDFPL735kyS//mIf8Z94q4BToirJDe9FxThJoYX4oqD F975Sxc/Nq33/vx/kQzr0lZVfUHxa4Na26o+A8TPghCRys0ZZdgYRECylTsDVoRKgaasPVUaC6OU VKz14E5KGRiQUuq6aWMtEQCOQ72mVsQmbqjKfC6BU749YYhmbNashWmZPbqvEcPniBynuirbIYu0 RtRkkLCydP8rjxgvtMk1EaDRVa8jk5esYiDj8jF7AhcBlsDmtpiAiPE4EBoys5xrsc/pEfjSk0a9 BOIqF/3iCNCzQTlTklOWdv/pCHyz3CoA0AykT3dHYH/LrQKjtJGg48a/mwCUQAhpEwE3C84HlZyR AV3Hg6KcDTgnWPJM4r7vC+Bcu0MA1jEgeim57aEQvToZ+w0bsAmPXRdtPPX3y8ldKm3pgSf3F3N5 KFsB75a5c7wF7u04egW8QBwnzHjx3ygiGZUKnUJjIPXJtKhMY64g/AMg6Kr+cYBXCydW3GCWCp8y nXeHcHguHN8+rDuGzCDV3bybnINaH1QgLCqg6rouxFkocaPiQwhxNvq8YyAkxqfpfNh3fuZM+bjb 7kJmju/Yie+v/x+k/LDddr8BShKMrI4evB8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Jason Rumney's message of "Fri, 06 May 2005 00:28:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36753 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36753 Jason Rumney writes: > Perhaps a better approach is to start a timer on load, and if appt is > not "activated" within a few seconds, then warn the user that loading > the package no longer activates it, and tell them the prefered way of > activating appt (usually via an autoloaded function). Create a convention that it will not be activated when loaded and add this information to important documents such as manuals, news, ... is fine. Warning the user after loading the package doesn't seem correct, imagine if he loads 10 packages that warn him of something. I wouldn't like. -- Marcelo Toledo marcelo@marcelotoledo.org http://www.marcelotoledo.org Mobile: 55 71 9116-1101